Mirror's Edge

[Bluepixie]

Mirror's Edge - First In-game footage (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33585.html)

OMG! Frick'n'sweeeet! :D

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

She shot herself in the leg.

[Hex]

:shock: HOT DAMN! That looks awesome :-D

[neogramps]

yeah, I will be buying that

[To0]

Have we seen a concept render of this? I remember something very similar to this a while back?

[gor]

wow, what a fresh looking game - complete contrast to all the recent big titles.

Moving away from guns, darkness and big steroid monsters, with a female lead! and graphics that aren't about shine and bumps and whatever else but still looks great.

[Octavion]

Why do EA keep making good games?! It's making my hate of them very hard to keep up.

[To0]

Gor, that was sarcasm right?

[gor]

I'm actually pretty taken by that footage - although it does look like its set in a cs source aim_textures map.

[To0]

The only reason I asked is that plainly that game is using "shine and bumps" + all the normal effects we are used to. Female lead; isn't that old now? Running and jumping "fresh" no they've just finally got a 'proper' 3d platformer.

This game lives or dies on its controls.

[gor]

I don't regard the running and jumping part as particularly fresh, more the setting and concept. I concede the game probably does have all the shine and bumps we are used to but it still looks like a aim_textures map. I think the primary colours are well worked, but im not so sure about them "subtly giving the user hints" (wheres the subtlety?); kind of eliminates some of the problem solving I would have thought. The female lead thing is audacious in my eyes, considering adrenaline pumped male gamers are used to guns and grunts.

[To0]

two words:

Lara Croft

Seriously.

[saladin]

two words:

Lara Croft

Seriously.

The man's got a point. See also: Johanna Dark.

[Sideshow]

OTOH those are both console games, and only one is an FPS. Heroine as a main character on a PC FPS?

[neogramps]

what about the HL series? gordon freeman's a woman - that's the big twist in episode 3.

but seriously, no-one has mentioned portal? female protaganist in a puzzle/jumping game?

[saladin]

I don't think a heroine as protagonist in a FPS is that big a deal, TBH. The first-person genre is all about decharacterising the controlled entity, so that the player can feel more immersion in the game. Heroines in general is the more important issue, though I feel the real point of contention is more the stereotypical presentation of females.

I showed that trailer to Nakita, and the one thing she commented on was "at least she's got an athletic build, without the ridiculous boobs." I feel it's a step in the right direction.

[neogramps]

shut up sally

[saladin]

shut up sally

:(

[Fyndir]

Saladin, don't take that, you've got tigers on your side.

[neogramps]

:P

edit - this forum doesn't have a tongue-out emoticon - how will i express my light-hearted abuse?

[Fyndir]

Just turn into Troll V2.0 and anyone dumb enough to take your abuse seriously can cry in a corner and slit their wrists.

[neogramps]

i'm not trolling, just bashing sally as he didn't say thank you :|

But, I was impressed by how he made pixie do his bidding and come round my house so he didn't have to.

[saladin]

i'm not trolling, just bashing sally as he didn't say thank you :|

But, I was impressed by how he made pixie do his bidding and come round my house so he didn't have to.

Erm...yeah...exams on Monday and Wednesday = Saladin forgetful. Sorry.

And Pixie does my bidding because...I dunno actually.

[neogramps]

np, only joking. i'm just bored as fuck and this last hour is dragging by. this week just needs to be over.

[Bluepixie]

OTOH those are both console games, and only one is an FPS. Heroine as a main character on a PC FPS?

No One Lives Forever 1 and 2. It did come out for the PS2 and Mac also but it was first released on the PC.

two words:

Lara Croft

Seriously.

This is true, but female leads do tend to be in adventure, 3rd person style affairs. I can only think of NOLF and Portal at the moment, might be missing some but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

For me, the thing that really stands out is the "true first person" perspective that you play from. There is no HUD and the camera is placed round about the head sort of like in F.E.A.R. The level of immersion from having a "real" body rather than being a floating entity (as in HL2) is something that can really add (or in some cases) detract from becoming one with the game world.

http://www.psu.com/media/articles/mirrors_edge/mirrors_edge_2.jpg

Granted the control system must allow for natural, responsive interaction with the game world or it'll end up feeling very clumsy (Trespasser?). If it can be played with the level of fluidity as we've seen in the trailer then it'll be a very special title. After doing a bit more the reading the storyline could be good to, check out the blurb on the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrors_Edge).

[Hex]

OTOH those are both console games, and only one is an FPS. Heroine as a main character on a PC FPS?

No One Lives Forever? EDIT: Dang Pixie beat me to that...

:P

edit - this forum doesn't have a tongue-out emoticon - how will i express my light-hearted abuse?

It does actually, you just have to type : - P instead of :P. Thus: :-P

I'm with Gor, I think this looks like it has a lot of potential. It's true that crap controls will ruin it but I'm looking forward to this :-)

[Sideshow]

No One Lives Forever 1 and 2. It did come out for the PS2 and Mac also but it was first released on the PC.

On the way home my music gave me a Pavlovian inspiration: the Assassin in Hexen 2.

[neogramps]

oh and that new game about the ww2 female spy/assassin - velvet something

[To0]

I can't believe pixie even mentioned Trespasser and classicly forgot it had a female protagonist.

Anyhoo, there are a number of shitty Europop FPS games that had female leads the reason you don't remember them is that they were shit so they stuck a female lead to entice spotty teenagers. If you really want I'll trawl the web and get the names but they do exist.

Yay no hud, yay freeform, jump on the bandwagon free running, puzzle solving. Ultimately I suspect this will be playable from the 3rd person. Or hugely linear. Possibly both.

Justification for 3rd person:
Easier to control, more rewarding to see the character animations from 3rd person she's a she, only reason to do that is for the fappage. Can't fap to what you can't see.

Justification for linear:
It's a playstation title.


I can understand your excitement if this was Rock* showing off the new fluid control system for GTA4 on the PC or GTA5, whatever. But conceptually it leaves me cold.

[Hex]

No offense Peter but you respond like this to nearly every game that gets announced, and it comes off like the rumblings of an old man in a wheelchair telling everyone it was "better in my day" ;-)

[Thanatos]

the Assassin in Hexen 2.

Oh yeh! good call.


I always played paladin. massive fuck off sword ftw!! I remember some of the concept art in the manual?/install screen? and it was absolutly rediculous lol stood to nearly shoulder height if i remember right.

[Bluepixie]

*slaps head* Doh! I can't believe I forgot to mention Trespasser either! ZOMG! Looking down was always a hoot in that game. :) I'm hoping for more of a free-roam level system for this title aka. Assassins Creed, GTA. Linear would be poor show.

[Fyndir]

I always played paladin. massive fuck off sword ftw!! I remember some of the concept art in the manual?/install screen? and it was absolutly rediculous lol stood to nearly shoulder height if i remember right.

Yeah, but if Pixie had a sword that stood to shoulder height it would technically be classed as a regular sized steak knife for the rest of us. ;)

[To0]

If I'm the bitter old man then you are all the excited teenage girls, wetting their knickers at the thought of the next boy band.

[Bluepixie]

epic lulz.

http://pausegaming.com/niall/holy%20shit.jpg

[Thanatos]

... regular sized steak knife for the rest of us. ;)

One hefty steak knife

[Fyndir]

It's all about scale man.

That guy could be Pixie sized (approx 4 inches tall).

[Bluepixie]

E3 Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36281.html)

Nice continuation of the previous one. Shows more combat and stuff, looks nice.

[Octavion]

I'm starting to get quite excited about this. The potential for an open world playground where I can clamber up anything I see is the main draw for me. I suppose it'll all come down to level design in the end though. If they make massive levels with lots of stuff it'll be awesome; if they make wee areas with a bunch of impassible high walls and massive drops it'll be crap.

[Sideshow]

Developer walkthrough (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36297.html)

[Octavion]

More Gameplay (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/21/mirrors-edge-leipzig-trailer/#more-2358)

[GigaFuzz]

Yet another crazy Special Edition from EA:
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/25/130-mirrors-edge-comes-with-timbuk2-messenger-bag/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/mirrors-edge-timbuk2-bag.jpg
$130 bags you the Xbox 360 release of the game along with a ME-themed Timbuk2 messenger bag (read: much nicer than GameStop's preorder bag), complete with Faith's face on the inside flap – just the sort of conversation starter we all want sewn directly into our baggage.

[Bluepixie]

Forgot to reply to this. It's kinda cool, not sure if I'd use it though! :)

Awesome new cut-scene footage give some background to the game world, nice style. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40532.html)

Some more stylised animation footage, kinda reminds me of the combat in Oni. :D (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/19848)

Also some new gameplay footage, "Flight Level", looks goood. (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21562)

[GigaFuzz]

Demo for this will be out tomorrow on PSN, and Friday on XBL.

The demo will feature the prologue of the game, a tutorial and a segment of the single-player story mode.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/17998/Mirrors-Edge-Demo-Set-to-Arrive-on-Friday/

[Sideshow]

Sweeeeeet

[Gunder]

I cannot fucking wait for this game. Definitely downloading it once it hits the PSN, and then probably Live too for comparison.

[Hex]

I'm glad I live in a flat with two X360 owners :-D

[DAve]

the demo is out for PS3 now, at slightly under a gig. It's worth having a look at it too - it took me a while to get into the swing of things (pun intended). It's not like other video games, it's a lot more about spotting the quickest, easiest or more stylish way to jump, leap, dive and generally stay out of trouble. One of the few games out that actively encourage sneaking and non-violence as an option. Course, you can always kick some arse if you really want to :D

I'm not used to jumping on the PS3. The number of times I leapt to my death in the training grounds is unreal. Even wife was trying to give tips - "you really should have jumped over that chasm" etc.

[To0]

Yeah cos pressing X is very different to pressing space....

[Sideshow]

Yeah cos pressing L1 is very different to pressing space....

Fixed it for you.

[To0]

I r can remap controller

[Sideshow]

Probably, but you don't want to. L3 is move and R3 is look. If you bind X to Up you won't be able to change direction when preparing to launch.

[To0]

It matters not, I don't like the game because it would 90million times better with my mouse keyboard combo on a PC @ 1920*1200. Sony, get with the fucking program and get a decent SDK out!

Having said that, traditional gamers (former arcade gamers) will completely adore this game - you know I mean console gamers right?

[Bluepixie]

I played the PS3 demo on Peter's shiny console and was left screaming at the screen, demanding more. It's very, very, VERY smooth and easy to use, like that odd butter/sunflower spread you can use straight out of the fridge (mmmmmm toast).

*cough*

Yeah, I want it. Want it bad. Gimme. :)

[Bluepixie]

Release Trailer = WIN (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42454.html)

[Gunder]

Apparently it's really short though, like shorter than 6 hours short.

[Sideshow]

Goddammit, this is out on Friday? Well, I do get paid on Friday... These last few weeks have been ridiculous for good games. If they'd spaced them out over the year I think I would never have been bored. So come Sunday I'll be playing this, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Little Big Planet, Rock Band 2, Wipeout HD & Left 4 Dead. Oh, and no-one's getting any Christmas presents.

[To0]

I heard 12 hours short and that seems to be more likely.

[Gunder]

I heard 12 hours short and that seems to be more likely.

Both 1Up and Eurogamer said 6 hours in their podcasts

[neogramps]

sideshow - leave Far Cry 2 out the equation, not worth it unless you're bored IMO

[saladin]

Far Cry 2 is great for the first hour, then hopelessly flawed thereafter.

[Sideshow]

I've played it up 'til I'm almost onto the second map (I think). It's got flaws, and certainly it's on the back burner til I finish everything else (or at least, finish Fallout 3), but it's still good fun: attacking encampments by setting fire to things never gets old.

[Gunder]

It's soooo frustrating, because you know that there's the foundations for a brilliant game in Far Cry 2, but it's repetitive nature and plethora of other mild annoyances prevent it from being anything other than mediocre.

[To0]

It's soooo frustrating, because you know that there's the foundations for a brilliant game in <insert several recent titles>, but it's repetitive nature and plethora of other mild annoyances prevent it from being anything other than mediocre.

Fixed

[neogramps]

Mirror's Edge PC in Early 2009

Damn, thought it was a simultaneous release. Not like I have time to play it anyway :(

[Socom]

I played the DEMO and didn't really like it that much.









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[PaulRPG]

whats it actually about?

[Fyndir]

Running.

More running.

Follow the red line.

Run more.

Hit someone on the head.

Run more.

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[Bluepixie]

PC Physics Trailer (http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/949454/mirrors-edge/videos/MirrorsEdgePCTrailer_111908HD_720p.html)

Yummy!! Look at that plastic sheeting!!! I don't mind waiting, not one bit. :)

[Sideshow]

Did anyone actually get this? Should I?

[GigaFuzz]

Did anyone actually get this? Should I?

Rental at best for me. It's in my queue.

[saladin]

I notice Edge gave it a real thrashing this issue. From the demo, I can see why.

Nice idea, lovely design, but it seems a bit soul-less.

[Sideshow]

I bought it on the way home: my raise kicks in this week so I rationalised that it only cost £20. So far it's... frustrating. Will post back once I've played it some more.

[gor]

Just bought this pre-owned for my bro's xmas (£15 is a steal, right?). Whats the verdict?

[Gunder]

I liked it, the combat wasn't particularly well done, but apart from that it was fun.

[DAve]

bought it for £15 from Amazon.

So far it's been:

run run fall to death
run fall to death
run run run fall to death
run run fall slightly further to death
throw sixaxis at wall.

It's oddly compelling.

[Sideshow]

Did anyone else get Synesthesia, the free download time trial? It's actually pretty awesome, lots more fun than I had playing the actual game. So much so in fact that I went back and played the main game some more. Sadly, it just gets worse as it goes on, and I found it pretty much no fun at all. Will definitely be getting the TT level pack when it finally gets released though - honing your run to try and get in within the time limit, then scouting around to find better routes: very engrossing. If only they could patch on a multiplayer tag mode...

[To0]

So game = baws, gameplay = cool?

[Sideshow]

Yeah, I guess. It's one of those games that came within spitting distance of being awesome, but presumably got rushed out by the publishers during playtesting while all the playtesters were saying "Well, this is actually incredibly frustrating and not much fun".

[To0]

Or they forgot to rotate the playtesters so they were all experts...

[GingerPrinz]

Or they forgot to rotate the playtesters so they were all experts...

PLEASE COME AND BE A MANAGER AT WHERE I WORK. For real, I've been suggesting we do this for ages... Fresh perspectives are always good!

On Mirror's Edge tho, is the general consensus borrow if possible? I have a friend who has it, and I'll give it a go if it's fun to play, not looking for a new game to get really into, more something for messing around in.

[Bluepixie]

Mirror's Edge 2D (http://www.mirrorsedge2d.com/)

Also, the new DL content is meant to be fantastic. Worth a look by the sounds of things.

Downloadable Content Trailer HD Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45685.html?type=)

[Sideshow]

It is, extremely awesome. If you can pick up the game for less than £20 and then get the DLC it's worth it.

[Bluepixie]

I bought it when I picked up my PS3 but still haven't played it.......looks like I have a reason to do so! :D

[gor]

I bought it when I picked up my PS3 but still haven't played it.......looks like I have a reason to do so! :D

Don't count on it. The 20 minutes I endured on the 2D version just there, is 10 minutes longer than I could be arsed with on the PS3.

That female grunting never grows old though.

[Sideshow]

2D version is probably pish, but the floating-in-space time trials are ace

[Bluepixie]

Mirror's Edge photo shoot (http://pixelatedgirl.com/2009/02/mirrors-edge-photoshoot-part-2/)

And another one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/savage_land_pictures/sets/72157617492339947/show/)

Kinda cool.

EDIT: also meant to say that, I enjoyed the single player game, much more than I anticipated. I still believe that people that "didn't" enjoy it, basically sucked at it.

That's right, you sucked! It's a harsh game, and if you can't get your head round the controls, you're gonna have a bad time. Looking forward to trying the DLC as some point.

[Sideshow]

DLC for FREE (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/07/12/mirrors-edge-dlc-for-free/)

Not sure if it's still like that, but if it is you should definitely grab it since it's pretty much the only reason to own Mirror's Edge. Grab it even if you don't have the game, and you can pick the game up cheap at a later date.

[Bluepixie]

DLC for FREE (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/07/12/mirrors-edge-dlc-for-free/)

Not sure if it's still like that, but if it is you should definitely grab it since it's pretty much the only reason to own Mirror's Edge. Grab it even if you don't have the game, and you can pick the game up cheap at a later date.

You beauty! Cheers for the heads up Iain! That's my gaming sorted for the evening. :D