Blingdows 7

[To0]

No really, once again M$ have managed to get me interested to the point where I'm thinking - even after the recent COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE of Vista - "hmmmm, windows 7 is JUST what I want to buy!"

Let me break it down for you:

It was the best of times, it was the worst of time. Economic freefall, wars in the middle east and I could care less with my 3 (trying to be 4) core AMD Kickassthlon. Vista is a prissy bitch but most of the time it did as I wanted and occasionally pleased me with inspired solutions to problems like frequent graphics driver failures not killing the pute. However after the latest windows update killed my install - not a joke. I'm coming to the end of my tether with Vista and lo and behold the first thing I read when I'm fuming about Vista is the next gen version that is being rushed out the door to increase business uptake.

Two things appeal here:
1) I need a new version of windows like I need a hole in the head but anything that makes Vista fuck off would be welcome
2)It is designed (supposedly) with business users in mind.

Things I have issues with in Vista:
1) Performance/Resources - Windows RC1 by all accounts sorts or at least goes along way to sort this
2) Windows XP compatability - actually this is hardly an issue and only two things I ran had issues both of which have been patched since but the new version of windows offers a client integration of Windows XP. It virtualises the XP os so you can choose to install to XP or Win7 but they run in the same way which is REALLY fucking sweet and about damn time.
3) Streaming media, other folk get this to work but it kills my computers dead (all three of them :( )

[Sid]

"I could care less"? I hate that - it makes no sense (if you're using it to mean what I think you're using it to mean). Unless you are saying that your AMD processor made you care about the economic freefall and wars in the Middle East, which I find hard to believe.

http://incompetech.com/Images/caring.png

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Why not use Windows XP? It's a great operating system! I still can't see why people use Vista - I don't really understand what it brings to the table compared to XP other than worse performance and compatibility.

I intend to upgrade to Windows 7 as soon as it is launched, though - I think it'll be pretty insane and once it's available, there doesn't seem to be much reason to stay with XP. It's apparently faster than XP for most tasks.

[Sideshow]

They saying stems from sarcasm, which doesn't really come across via text.

[To0]

Earlier someone posted about reading posts in the posters voice. As I default to sarcasm I really think it should have been possible to see that what I was saying was that my new and shiny AMD processor put me in a good mood and while I was sparing some thought to the economic crisis and such it really wasn't high on my agenda of "things that I am thinking about". The other point was harmonious to the post in general, the whole post is about superficial and pointless frivolity. My supposed indifference to the problems of the world due to a new toy illustrates clearly that, at least at the time, I was not thinking about the larger picture and instead wrapping myself in a blanket of self importance and thinking that my computer not having DX 10.1 support is the worst news ever.

I constantly despair that people don't see my posts for the well structured and informative posts that they are through excellent use of bad grammar and poor english.

[GingerPrinz]

Earlier someone posted about reading posts in the posters voice.

It was me! And I got it!!!!

[GingerPrinz]

'Pologies for the double post - but I think I have the solution Pete. Add this to your sig

The above post may contain sarcasm. Please consult your doctor should you experience any of the following symptoms: nerdrage, excessive QQ, or the feeling that you have been slapped in the face

[Hex]

The whole reading posts in the poster's voice thing isn't really viable - even if most of the society knows your tone of voice, some of them won't. Why not post unambiguously rather than relying on personal knowledge?

[GingerPrinz]

The original point I was making was that if you read posts as if they were written pleasantly you will get on a lot better than the usual attitude of jumping on anything that could possibly be construed as a dig :)

[Sid]

Woah, lighten up guys. I was merely poking a little fun out of the American expression "I could care less".

Let's talk about Windows! YEAH!

[Octavion]

I hate GUIs; I only even use BSD.

Half Life looks like this (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5746/asciihl21tl.jpg) to me. I challenge anyone to say that those graphics are not better than Crysis (more like Gaysis lol).

[Sid]

RC 7100 was leaked by BitTorrent a couple of days ago. From what I've heard, it's a lot more polished than the Beta and getting pretty close to an RTM.

[To0]

Ha! that is nothing I play Half life through a text interpreter:

"There is a round room in front of you."
"It contains a giant tentacle"
"You are afraid"

[Sideshow]

>Go North
You have been Shot in the Face with an AWP!
You are dead
Respawn y/n?

[GingerPrinz]

>Crouch down
You bend your knees to a crouch. You are now smaller.
>Jump
You jump in the air. Inexplicably your knees remain bent.
>Shoot
You fire off a round.
You land on the ground, still in your crouched position. A dead terrorist is in front of you.

[Captain_Caveman]

Oi, no modding the text adventures GingerPrinz! The internet will never have low enough pings for your fantasyful "multiple-player" games until we manage to get this broadband thingy everone is talking about, it'll never catch on you know.

[GingerPrinz]

Don't worry buddy I was playing with bots :)

I really hope our office sees the merit in getting 7 when it's out. I think they're already a bit pissed off that they got Vista for a lot of the machines. Networking seems soooooo horrendous with it.

[DAve]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/252181/windows-7-free-for-a-year.html

windows 7, free for a year. Which is nice.

[To0]

Installing this when I get back from my holidays. I'll keep you all posted.

[Sid]

Interesting that they'd offer a full year. Perhaps they're not as close to release as most people had thought? Surely they want the early adopters to actually buy the software when it is launched?

I'd love to spend this afternoon installing this and playing around with it, but unfortunately I have exams to study for and fail :(

Post screenshots.

[To0]

No, everyone is sitting thinking it is a pile of crap, give folk a year to play with it and by that time they'll be too entrenched to go back to the previous version and upgrade to a full copy.

[Sid]

No, everyone is sitting thinking it is a pile of crap
Really? How come? Most of the reviews I've read have been very positive.

[neogramps]

They're thinking it's crap because was/is a pile of crap and they have lost faith in MS to produce anything which is even bearable to use.

Dl'd the RC today and will install it at some point over the weekend to see what's changed since the beta

[DAve]

No, everyone is sitting thinking it is a pile of crap, give folk a year to play with it and by that time they'll be too entrenched to go back to the previous version and upgrade to a full copy.

yeah, what he said.
Also, a year down the line, MS will probably introduce some whiz-bang addition to W7, or else fix all the bugs in a service patch.

[Sid]

"23rd October is the date that Windows 7 will be available," said Bobby Watkins, Managing Director of Acer UK, in an interview with Pocket-lint (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/23846/acer-confirms-windows-7-23-october.phtml).

[GingerPrinz]

Anyone got it yet? A couple of my colleagues downloaded it and installed, they didn't get a chance to really use it yet so no proper feedback.

[GigaFuzz]

Anyone got it yet? A couple of my colleagues downloaded it and installed, they didn't get a chance to really use it yet so no proper feedback.

Got it, and it's running fine, but I didn't have any problems with the previous build (7000) either. A few little extra touches here and there (and some more exciting wallpaper!), but nothing majorly different to the Beta.

I do recommend giving it a go though if you've got some spare HDD space. It's got all the good stuff from Vista, with a lot of the problems removed.

[GingerPrinz]

Well I seem to be a victim of software piracy according to my startup message, so a solution that doesn't make me a victim any longer is obviously gonna be great for my self esteem. I think I'll give it a go.

[DAve]

I do recommend giving it a go though if you've got some spare HDD space. It's got all the good stuff from Vista, with a lot of the problems removed.

Does it run games any faster / slower?

[GigaFuzz]

Does it run games any faster / slower?

I've not done any proper testing/benchmarking, but I've not noticed any differences in any of the games I've tried. It's been a long time I've used XP so, so I can't offer any XP/7 comparisons.

[Sid]

To the people currently using Windows 7: do you find it difficult to right-click on the background (to select "Sort by", "New folder", or similar) of a folder that is full of stuff, or find it difficult to find a 'space' to drag something into a folder (without making it go into a subfolder)?

Hrmmm, actually, it's perhaps because the default view for everything is "details" rather than "list" or "icons". Bit of a pain in the arse, to be honest.

Edit: Found this: http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/1905

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So far, Windows 7 is not bad now that I've got it configured the way I want, but it took me a good few hours to work out how to get it that way in the first place. For example, the quick launch bar is a pain to work out how to activate - they seem to want us to use "pinned" things, which aren't as good.

Some of the animations are a bit of a joke, too. I *hate* how when right-clicking a taskbar icon, the popup menu takes a split second to appear due to the animation, rather than being instantaneous. Then, when the popup does appear, the bottom option ("close") isn't flush with the taskbar, so you have to move the cursor up about 10 pixels instead of 1. So annoying!

It appears to run stuff everything at least as fast as my previous XP SP3 installation does. Applications definitely boot faster under Windows 7. Memory usage is about 1GB with a few applications open.

[Sideshow]

Accidentally dragging to a sub-folder is an old problem: make sure you have the Status Bar turned on, then you can drag onto it (alternatively: drag onto the title bar).

EDIT: Also, I'm sure you can turn the animations off somewhere...

[GigaFuzz]

To the people currently using Windows 7: do you find it difficult to right-click on the background (to select "Sort by", "New folder", or similar) of a folder that is full of stuff, or find it difficult to find a 'space' to drag something into a folder (without making it go into a subfolder)?

Hrmmm, actually, it's perhaps because the default view for everything is "details" rather than "list" or "icons". Bit of a pain in the arse, to be honest

When in details mode, you can use the white space between columns to bring up the folder context menu (Sort By, New, etc). Right clicking on actual text, or on a row that has been selected brings up the file-specific menu. (Ninja-ed by Sideshow :()

As for copying, if the folder's taking up a whole window, so there isn't much space around, I tend to drag things to the large status bar at the bottom (the one with details for the currently selected file).

As for the taskbar menu pop-up, not a problem for me. The menu pops up well before I have time to move the mouse over it anyway.

Edit: Just checked, taskbar animations can indeed be turned off. Same way as every version of Windows since 95:

[Sid]

Ah yeah, nice - dragging to the status bar seems to be the way to go.

Space between columns does actually seem to be working for right clicking, although I think it would have been nice to also be able to drag a file/folder to that space. Similarly, I think it would have been nice to also be able to right click on the status bar to get the normal folder popup menu.

The taskbar popup thing is getting easier for me now that I know where to expect the close button to be - a large part of the problem is probably just me being used to the XP position, although the mouse movement required between the taskbar click and the close click is always going to require more mouse movement and, as a result, be slightly slower - I don't understand why they've done that. It's not an issue when you're sitting back in your seat, casually clicking things. But when I'm working hard on something and opening and closing loads of windows constantly, I want to be able to close multiple windows as quickly as possible. I could close 3-4 in XP in around a second, whereas Vista is currently taking around double that time.

[Sideshow]

Real Men Alt-F4

[GingerPrinz]

Question: Since I have a 1tb drive ergo have plenty of space, would anyone recommend installing Windows 7 in tandem with Vista, install it in tandem on a separate partition, or just scrub Vista and use 7?

[Sid]

Real Men Alt-F4
Alt-tabbing to select the windows you want to close then Alt-F4ing is considerably slower than GUI clicking!

Question: Since I have a 1tb drive ergo have plenty of space, would anyone recommend installing Windows 7 in tandem with Vista, install it in tandem on a separate partition, or just scrub Vista and use 7?
I don't see any advantage to dual-booting - just use one or the other. Windows 7 does seem better than Vista, so you could scrub Vista and go for Windows 7 if you fancied it, but bear in mind that the Beta only lasts for about a year, so you're comitting yourself to doing a new operating system install in about a year. That's not a problem for the kind of geeks that enjoy doing operating system installs, but for the lazier individual who prefers convenience over performance, it's a hassle.

[GingerPrinz]

Not so much hassle. My Vista is being a tattletale anyway so I think 7 fresh install looks to be the way forward. Cheers for the info Sid.

[GigaFuzz]

Just to clarify, the current Windows 7 RC will begin to shut down every 2 hours on 1st March 2010, but for people who can put up with that (I doubt gamers fit into this category) it'll continue to work through to 1st June 2010.

[Sideshow]

Alt-tabbing to select the windows you want to close then Alt-F4ing is considerably slower than GUI clicking!

Noob! Right hand clicks, left hand Alt-F4s.

[GigaFuzz]

Real pros use Alt-Space-C. Alt-F4 involves an inefficient stretch across the keyboard.

[Sideshow]

Phaw, you speak nonsense. For one thing, a stretch can be uncomfortable, long, awkward (if you have little midget hands)... but it can't be inefficient. A whole extra keypress, OTOH, is totally inefficient.

[gor]

When I want to close an app I just hold the power button down with my big toe. No stretch, no key press, no clicks. I win.

[To0]

I'm dual booting because, while it appears stable, it is M$.

Nuff said.

[neogramps]

When I want to close an app I just hold the power button down with my big toe. No stretch, no key press, no clicks. I win.

Viper just wishes apps closed - he wins

[Thanatos]

yeh, i mean he can play L4D from across the other side of a room whilst taking part in an AGM, and not even wearing the NIA, so closing apps must be no problem.

[Viper001]

Viper just wishes apps closed - he wins

this is true. brings a new meaning to the term "rage quit" when in a game.

[GigaFuzz]

this is true. brings a new meaning to the term "rage quit" when in a game.

Haha, nice one.

Release date has been set at October 22nd this year. The Release Candiate is good until March, so I certainly won't be buying it straight away. Come March we'll see how things stand.

[neogramps]

Just got an email from MS - pre-order Windows 7 Home Premium E, only £49.99 ERP, or save up to 47% with Windows 7 Professional E at £99.99 ERP

Pretty cheap for retail prices; think I might actually buy it at £50. The only feature of Pro i'd miss is the virtualised XP mode; but I'll be dual booting anyway, so it's not worth £50 extra.

[To0]

E = education edition?

[Captain_Caveman]

E be the european edition with no IE.

[neogramps]

Nope - they mention the difference between E and N editions - N doesn't have media player on it. I think E means european - as in, no internet browser included

Amazon has the pre-order for £45 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AB002DUCMT2|B002DUCMTC|B001XCWGII)

Does anyone know if amazon only takes money on a pre-order when it comes to shipping time? If so I might pre-order now, rather than wait till payday

[Captain_Caveman]

They take the money at time of order I believe. Also I can't find anywhere on the page if that version of windows 7 is to preorder the 32-bit or the 64-bit.

[neogramps]

It comes with both 32 and 64 in one.

[Captain_Caveman]

That is almost genius. I heartily approve and would like to subscribe to your news letter. :D Now if I could just figure out where the PRE_ORDER button is on the damned Amazon website to give them some money I would be purchasing of this fine product.

[GingerPrinz]

It's the "notify me when this product becomes available for pre-order" button no?

[Captain_Caveman]

Apparently they ran out of preorder stock by 9am. But hints are they are only putting small numbers out at at time. Meanwhile MS store has melted under the demand. :D

[To0]

Food for the devil, we'll all be dead from Swine flu in the next 2 months anyway!


Sorry, been reading too many crap sites this morning. If it's not already been mentioned don't bother waiting for an upgrade for Vista. No Vista upgrade in Europe due to the no IE bundle.

[Phizz]

One thing that confuses me... If it come sans IE, are you expected to FTP a browser? I am confused regarding this logic other than to sate Eurozone Anti-Competition Legislation.

[Captain_Caveman]

It is stated on all the sites that are selling it that you are required to download a webbrowser of your choice BEFORE running the install, burn it to a disk or flash drive then install once OS is installed.

[Sideshow]

I'd imagine that running Windows Update would present IE as an optional download.

[neogramps]

I'd imagine that running Windows Update would present IE as an optional download.

That's exactly what I assume will happen as well; since if you have an outdated version of IE, windows update will always try and prompt you to install IE7/8

[Thanatos]

PC world are selling pre-order home premium for £44.99 and Professional for £89.99. As far as i can tell they are still 'in stock' , lets me add one of each to my cart.

[DAve]

does anyone know where you can find Professional for £99.99?
I found it at PCworld (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1802258804.124914488 2@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdiadehllhdmijcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=024588&category_oid=), but would like to avoid giving my money to that shop if at all possible.

Amazon are selling it at £160, as are most places now.

[neogramps]

they only had very limited stock of the low price versions; they will go up again soon, closer to release

[DAve]

Bought one from [shudder] PC world. It's the first actual OS I've bought since, erm, well, Slackware.

I just noticed that you can drag the icons around in the taskbar. It's the first time I've actually been pleasantly surprised by a windows feature. Admittedly, I've been waiting for the ability to do that since Win98. Better late than never.

[GingerPrinz]

Haha everyone I've shown Windows 7 to is always the most pleased by that particular feature :)

[Sid]

Tesco are doing Windows 7 Home Premium for £49.97.

Also, try using voucher code TDX-SFFT to get another £5 off.

[To0]

TY craig

[saladin]

I don't see it on there any more. I guess they sold out.

[neogramps]

Does anyone have a DVD/Iso of the 32 bit RC of Win 7 - i need it for my netbook and can't find it online anywhere!

[Sid]

Does anyone have a DVD/Iso of the 32 bit RC of Win 7 - i need it for my netbook and can't find it online anywhere!
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4963859/Windows_7_RC_64bit_Microsoft__2009

[neogramps]

Cheers sid, though i managed to do some IRL P2P and got a copy from the Arts IT bloke at work

[GingerPrinz]

Has anyone fired up the new patch of BF2 on 7 yet? If so, have you encountered any problems?

[DAve]

so, what's the general opinion. Windows 7 any good?
Not as good as vista/XP/2000/server/ME/98SE/98/95/3.11/3.1/DOS?

[Fil2eFly]

Well in my opinion it seems to have the good bits from vista and xp, aka it is shiny and runs very well :)

[Hex]

I'm tempted to upgrade. Strangely the retail edition is actually cheaper than the OEM copy on overclockers...by a whole £2 but still cheaper, and you get both 32-bit and 64-bit discs in the retail edition. Weird

[TokenEngineer]

well my experience with Windows 7 was awesome. Install from scratch with 64-bit version. Booted from DVD, presented with awesome graphical interface, a few quick questions about where to install and location info, then installed in about 20 minutes. Booted into windows and found it could already use my sound card and graphics card. Update found every single piece of hardware in my system and presented all the current drivers, then it found all the devices connected via USB like logitec webcam, cannon printer and installed all those. after about 30 minutes it was done. so painless. I'm liking the task bar dock but in general it's fantastic, I didn't have any problems with Vista but this is just so much slicker..

i recon it's time for those still clinging to XP to move on up.

[To0]

well my experience with Windows 7 was awesome. Install from scratch with 64-bit version. Booted from DVD, presented with awesome graphical interface, a few quick questions about where to install and location info, then installed in about 20 minutes. Booted into windows and found it could already use my sound card and graphics card. Update found every single piece of hardware in my system and presented all the current drivers, then it found all the devices connected via USB like logitec webcam, cannon printer and installed all those. after about 30 minutes it was done. so painless. I'm liking the task bar dock but in general it's fantastic, I didn't have any problems with Vista but this is just so much slicker..

i recon it's time for those still clinging to XP to move on up.

I remember my first vista install being very similar to that. Then after a couple of weeks UAC locked me out of all my files...

[neogramps]

Well i've had the RC on my machine since it was released and upgraded to the real thing on release day, no problems so far. It also runs great on my netbook.

Install and maintenance is one of my favourite things about 7 - the driver support is just so good - no more fannying around looking for chipset drivers when you install, it's all automagic. Also, when shit breaks, I've found the "Diagnose problem" actually works - i.e. mplayerc was crashing a lot and it flagged this up, gave me a link to the newest build, and now it works fine.

[To0]

Dear Santa,

Windows 7 please.

Thanks

[Fil2eFly]

Dear Santa,

Windows 7 please.

Thanks

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Chapman_as_Brian.jpg

NO! you have been a very naughty boy

[Bluepixie]

Lol

I've just ordered 4GB of RAM and a new 1TB drive for the Win 7 upgrade.

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 6400C4 800MHz Dual Channel (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-038-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813) - £75.99

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1279) - £61.98

The Samsung HD103SJ appears to be one of the fasted 1TB drives out and my previous experience with Samsung has been flawless. Was thinking of getting the Patriot stuff (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-010-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813) but I noticed it runs at a higher voltage to achieve the 4-4-4-12 timings. Plus, I can't really get my MB to run the FSB any higher than 800Mhz anyway, so guaranteed tighter timings and lower voltages seemed like the way to go....

[GingerPrinz]

Picking up one of those drives myself to get some better results from Premiere. It seems like a house.

[To0]

Have one of those drives and the WD 1Tb blue. Both are excellent getting a WD Black soon.

[saladin]

I remember my first vista install being very similar to that. Then after a couple of weeks UAC locked me out of all my files...

In a Skynet sort of way, that makes sense. Your files, though inaccesible, remained controlled and safe througout. Feature working as intended.

[Hex]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/wilhen01/windows7.jpg

So apparently an 8800 GTS isn't enough to handle Aero. Good one Mr Upgrade Advisor...

[To0]

To get all the features of Aero you need DX10+ class card I think.

[Phizz]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/wilhen01/windows7.jpg

So apparently an 8800 GTS isn't enough to handle Aero. Good one Mr Upgrade Advisor...

Oh go back to your macs. :p Aero is not an essential feature.

[Hex]

To get all the features of Aero you need DX10+ class card I think.
The 8800 is a DX10 card...

[To0]

I meant 10.1 but actually only AMD supports that so I'm guessing that isn't it.

[Octavion]

Wait a sec, why are you looking at the 32-bit report? I thought you had a 64-bit processor.

[Hex]

I looked at both, they're practically identical. Both of them make out I have an inadequate graphics card for Aero, which is clearly a load of shite

[Octavion]

...which is clearly a load of shite

A bit like your PC.

Zing! High fives all round!

[TokenEngineer]

I looked at both, they're practically identical. Both of them make out I have an inadequate graphics card for Aero, which is clearly a load of shite

Yeah don't worry the advisor programs are a bunch of rubbish. You will be able to run Aero no problem... hell the advisor program didn't even run on my machine, just kept crashing.

[Fil2eFly]

Acording to the "windows experience index" my PC dosent not fall into the bracket that will support " multiplayer and 3‑D gaming "

that silly gtx280 is only good for MS paint then! dash!

[Phizz]

That's wierd... Vista gives me a 5.9 for my GTX280. What make you got Barney?

[Fil2eFly]

well oh im jst being a little sarcastic my gfx card gets a score of 6.4

but my PC as a whole gets a 5.6 one of my HDDs is a bit crap. But acording to the "what dose this mean" my pc dosent fall in the gaming bracket

[brialzebub]

What exactly constitutes a "gaming hdd" ?!?

Surely most decent modern SATA drives should do?

[Hex]

Maybe Microsoft have some sort of deal with the hardware manufacturers to try and sell more raptors...

[Fyndir]

It has to be a 'SLAYER' (tm) brand hard drive to be gaming.

Each drive requires a PCI-Ex64 slot to connect to, so it kind of takes up valuable motherboard space, but it's GAMING for GAMERS and GAMES.

Or something.

[To0]

no, if you look at the performance figures you'll see that with the 1tb drives (250gb and 320gb platters) the drive manufacturers were able to increase speed from the 500gb varients while reducing temperatures and power consumption. The single platter 250/320gb drives and multiples of them are really, really good. When we hit about 90mb/s for hdds the manufacturers essentially focused on "green" drives, they are cheaper too as they don't need the same tolerances as the fast drives. The spinpoints come in 3 flavours I think, basic, good and enterprise but I forget what the actual naming convention is. WD have blue, black and RE. Blue is for most consumers, minimal power/sound/temperature but slower spindle speed and least cost. Black, performance with power in mind and the RE (Raid Edition) that comes with a 5 year warranty and has extra stuff to minimise problems with multiple spindle machines creating harmonics and such like.

So in short, the cheaper 750gb+ drives have good but not great performance. The Great performance drives will get you the fabled 5.9 hdd score and SSD/ram drives will get you 6+ is my understanding. I've not had a chance to see if RAID improves this score.

[Sid]

Yega,

I was looking into getting a 4 disk SSD (OCZ Vertex) RAID array (Adaptec RAID 5805Z controller) so my games will boot that little bit quicker. I hate the long loading screen on BF2.

But, I also need 11TB of storage, although I'd like 20TB+ to grow into. What do you recommend as an ideal setup?

[To0]

You need a borg cube, I'll have one sent round.

[saladin]

Those things have terrible warranties. They break all the time, and if you ask the Collective for a replacement, they just stick nanotechnology in your neck.

[Sid]

Will that work with my laptop?

[Fyndir]

I stuck my nanotechnology into your mum last night.

...

wait...

[Sid]

I stuck my nanotechnology into your mum last night.

...

wait...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Fyndir/fyndirNegSnow.gif

8)?

[Fyndir]

Sid, get your hot little über-bottom ass over here so I can tie you up with duct tape, beat you until you bleed with a metal pole and have my filthy Trollish way with you...

...

...because I love you. <3