Chat about GUGS and girls and guns (split from "new members" thread)

[Chesire Cat]

yay for female #2! please hide your carnal desire :P

[Octavion]

I am a huge D&D and RPG fan. I play pen and paper D&D when I can but no one ever wants to :(

You should come along to GUGS (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tankypoos/GUGS/) where we play tabletop RPGs on Tuesdays in the QMU food factory. Then you can see the hilarity of me dying every time I have to make a fortitude save.

[DAve]

yay for female #2! please hide your carnal desire :P
I think we've got way more than two women on the club's membership. Welcome, though :)

[Phizz]

You should come along to GUGS (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tankypoos/GUGS/) where we play tabletop RPGs on Tuesdays in the QMU food factory. Then you can see the hilarity of me dying every time I have to make a fortitude save.

Told ya she was a real geek. I also think it would be great for you to come to GUGS. As well as Oct's awesome fortitude rolls in 3rd ed D&D there are loads of other games going on which I'm sure you'll be able to find a space at. /shameless plug

[Fyndir]

I think we've got way more than two women on the club's membership. Welcome, though :)

Yeah, but very few of them ever attend LANs other than Ches and..uhh...Joanna?

[Chesire Cat]

I think we've got way more than two women on the club's membership. Welcome, though :)

more than 2 registered in the forums. but how manyt actually show up for the LANs?

[GingerPrinz]

Yeah, but very few of them ever attend LANs other than Ches and..uhh...Joanna?

more than 2 registered in the forums. but how manyt actually show up for the LANs?


Ches, can you read?

[Chesire Cat]

yes...altho i didnt see that fydir ahd posted that. sorry! :(

[YegaDoyai]

Ok, i love KOTAR and KOTAR II but you need to get the community made fix for KOTAR II to make it the game it should have been, the missing storylines and influence quests have been reintroduced as well as a ton of other stuff that should have been in from the start. It's worth another playthrough once you patch it properly. Personally I'm waiting for the full version before trying again, but the last version I tried was MUCH better than the original. And the lightsabers always look good.

I shall find the website at somepoint and post it here.

Regarding your author choice:

Philip K Dick > Frank Herbert

I LOVE Dune, and have read some of Herberts other stuff but P.K. Dick is in another legue. Read Ubik and A Scanner Darkly (then watch the film) and you'll know why. Man in High Castle is reputedly Dicks best work but that is shite. It is probably his most accessable work which is why folk think it is great.

[DAve]

Yeah, but very few of them ever attend LANs other than Ches and..uhh...Joanna?
Yup. There was a woman that came along & played Starcraft with Ming last year. James and Anna came for a lan in 2005. OK, so 5 I can remember ;)

more than 2 registered in the forums. but how manyt actually show up for the LANs?
OK, you've got me there. Is there anything we can do to appeal more to the female gamer?

Regarding your author choice:
Philip K Dick > Frank Herbert
In general, yes. Don't read more than 3 books in series though. I did, and got really depressed. He's a fantastic author, but there's too much of a good thing.

[Fyndir]

Yup. There was a woman that came along & played Starcraft with Ming last year. James and Anna came for a lan in 2005. OK, so 5 I can remember ;)

Well I suppose, there's also Sid...

[Sid]

Well I suppose, there's also Sid...
How dare you!
OK, you've got me there. Is there anything we can do to appeal more to the female gamer?
Recruit hotter guys. :smile:

[Chesire Cat]

How dare you!

Recruit hotter guys. :smile:

I second that. (its not for me... >_>)

[Asrylia]

What time is the table top gaming on at and what would I need to bring? I have my precious dice obviously on me at all times just in case I encounter any hobgoblins on Buyer's road.

I have played Diablo II yonkies ago but wasn't immensely keen on it, however I may give it another go.

[Muppet]

Buyer's road.

lol sorry, just made me chuckle.

[Captain_Caveman]

Byre's road is equally funny, it means road with a cow shed on it.

[Phizz]

Recruit hotter guys. :smile:

Ehem... you have me. nuff said.

What time is the table top gaming on at and what would I need to bring? I have my precious dice obviously on me at all times just in case I encounter any hobgoblins on Buyer's road.

GUGS is every Tuesday at the QMU in the food factory from about 6PM we'll be the geeky people loitering at the far end of the food factory. You can usually spot as the ones who don't just play magic on the opposite side of the room from the rest of the society.

[Fyndir]

Ehem... you have me. nuff said.

You look too OLD without the hair man. =(

[Asrylia]

I will come along at about 6ish then. With my dice. And wander over and randomly introduce myself. Going to a party later that night (crazy American friend's Fat Tueday day before lent celebration - lot's of dessert and wine :p)
so I won't be able to stay long.

On the recruiting hotter guys front, I would say that you should give Sean Bean a call.. But no, that is certainly a conundrum, why don't girls game (en general) I think it's a culture thing me self.

Thank you for the Philip K. Dick recommendation!

[GingerPrinz]

Actually "The Beanster" does pop in now and again but he's been a bit shy since Larry and Ru pwnzed him and Mortensen at 2v2 DoW. Now the Hollywood types have heard of the boys' fearsome reputations they're all just a bit chicken.

[Asrylia]

Ah, well in that case I definately must come along to the next LAN! At least if Sean and Viggo are worse at FPSs than me, I won't look like such a n00b
:razz:

[gor]

Beano was in team sex panther back in the day, but after a few fruitless tournaments and an incident with sids ‘precious’, we had to let him go.

[Uuurrahh]

I will come along at about 6ish then. With my dice. And wander over and randomly introduce myself. Going to a party later that night (crazy American friend's Fat Tueday day before lent celebration - lot's of dessert and wine :p)
so I won't be able to stay long.

On the recruiting hotter guys front, I would say that you should give Sean Bean a call.. But no, that is certainly a conundrum, why don't girls game (en general) I think it's a culture thing me self.

Thank you for the Philip K. Dick recommendation!

*beckons* Yes, come to GUGS. There is in fact a new gamey thing starting on Tuesday ran by a Frenchman named Alan :P

[Phizz]

I thought it was Alain?

[Uuurrahh]

That's what I 'd presume with him being French, but he's called Alan on the forums.

[Phizz]

kk. Well it was good to meet Shona last night and also good to see Ches. Hope you two hadfun even if there weren't really any games to play. Plus this weekend is ConFlagration. Lots of one offs, geekyness and a guitar hero tourney. All invited in the QM. £3 for one day and £5 for the weekend.

[Asrylia]

Ya, I shall be back next week also. I would really like to get involved in a game, as on Tues I mainly just played with dice :P

[Octavion]

There may be an opening in our game of 3rd Ed D&D if you're interested. I'll have a word with the German one know as Lambert.

[Asrylia]

Oh wow! Very interested! I love D&D. What setting is it? Forgotten realms? Oh, and I'm guessing you mean 3.5? :D Oh wow! I'm excited I haven't played D&D since.. *eyes fog over* since, June!! I. I will play any character neccessary.. especially if I get to create them. :D

[Octavion]

It's forgotten realms and it's 3.0 with bits of 3.5 that aren't shit mixed in. Our party currently has a fighter (specialising in bows), a binder (me), a wizard (who is obsessed with fireballs and magic missiles), a dragonkin sorcerer, and a plain touched cleric of Tempus. So you'd be pretty much free to play anything you want.

[Asrylia]

How about a halfling or elven rogue? Depending on what takes me fancy? Shall I create a level 1? Alignment wise does anything go?

[Chesire Cat]

OK, you've got me there. Is there anything we can do to appeal more to the female gamer?

advertise as a male harem? ru and sid would prolly sell. :P

ok seriously, we just need to get ANY advertising out. So far, we've either not put up posters, or only put them up the week before a LAN at the earliest. The only reason current members know when the next LAN will be, is because they're current members and those who frequent the forums can easily look it up. We could be getting more new people by putting up posters/passing out flyers the day after a LAN. Like we should start advertising the April LAN the day after the March LAN. Even if only a few new people sign up and only like 1 or 2 of them come to a LAN, we'll have reached a wider audience, and people will pass it on to gamers they know.

to get more female members would be a bit trickier. and for that, i'm afraid you're stuck. there just aren't many female gamers. They all join GUGS. :\

Asrylia had a good theory for this: guys prefer the hands on experience of playing the game and seeing it happening which is why they tend towards computer games. Whilst girls prefer the mental aspect (which is not to say men are stupid) merely that imagination and abstract gaming is more appealing. which is why GUGS has more female members. By my reconing, of the 25 odd people there at the last meeting, about 10-12 were female.


WAY off topic and WAAAY late... :s

ah well... HALFLING BARD FTW!

[Octavion]

Halfling bard is possible the lamest character possible.

Mountain Orc barbarian is the win!

P.S. Asrylia, check yer e-mails for more D&D details.

[Chesire Cat]

HALFLING BARD FOR THE WIN DAMNIT! my god. pair it up with a dwarf fighter and you could do some sexiliscious combos! like have the halfling hide in the dwarfs beard and jump out and surprise attack the enemy! :D i'd totally do that!

[Octavion]

You appear to mistaking a lame halfling bard for the supreme awesomeness of a halfling rouge.

Bards suck: FACT!

[Chesire Cat]

last D&D game i played the rogue really sucked and the bard did everything. :P

[Captain_Caveman]

Halfling Rouge is terrible plan, especially if it is a Halfling Rouge Rogue. You can't sneak about if you are red!

[Chesire Cat]

indeed. they'd see you and shout: THE BRITISH ARE COMING! THE BRITISH ARE COMING! and then youd get shot. altho it would appear that you arent injured if you did get hurt. the blood wouldnt show up :)

[Asrylia]

I think with a bard, you *need* to know *how* to play them. Yes, they are the shittest class in close combat and yes they die easily, but I'm sure they can be used effectively somehow...Halfling Rogues are great!!! Good Dex, Listen, Hide etc... bonuses and they are cute!

[GingerPrinz]

I think you guys *need* to play some WoW....

(tarren mill server, pm me for details....

[Fyndir]

I think you guys *need* to play some WoW....

I think you *need* to play a decent motherfucking game instead of that boring bullshit.

[YcMing]

fyndir, guess what i agree :), after seeing raymond playing wow, i as not slightly impress by it :P.

What is the aim of it ? to level up or to complete the game or to kill other players??

[Octavion]

What is the aim of it ? to level up or to complete the game or to kill other players??

To explore the environment and to do cool stuff with your funky powers, imho.

It's a good fun game to play casually, just bumble around the landscape killing weird creatures and take their stuff. Some people do take it too seriously though, although I suppose there are people like that in every game.

[Muppet]

I think you *need* to play a decent motherfucking game instead of that boring bullshit.

Gawd, don't ya just love it when someone says what you think.

[Phizz]

I'm not gonig to get in on this. Everyone knows my opinion and game of choice. Leave it there.

[Fyndir]

game of chocie.

There's a game of chocolate?!

[GingerPrinz]

Like, I could start, but I won't. It's a great game, simple as. If you truly love games, then you will see the many merits of WoW.

[Sideshow]

Dave: WoW is the shit
People: MMORPGs are shit
Other People: My MMORPG > Your MMORPG
8 Million people: Dave's right
Blizzard: Wanna try? First time is free...
Me: Get that shit away from me you crack peddling child molester

[YegaDoyai]

+1

[Fyndir]

Like, I could start, but I won't. It's a great game, simple as. If you truly love games, then you will see the many merits of WoW.

No.

Played it to 42 with one character.

Played it to various levels with other characters.

Tried RP servers.

Tried "Normal" servers.

Found it continuously repetitive and boring with nothing to excite me in any way, at all. =/

[GingerPrinz]

So how many instances did you run, how much PVP did you play, how many 10,20,40 man raids did you go on, were you a member of a good guild that had regular events and a good social scene, did you play with friends???

Or were you more like the guy in the South Park episode?

[Fyndir]

So how many instances did you run

Too many.

Instances were largely just as boring as "regular" hunting, the only difference being I'm doing it with more people.

Beating your head off of a brick wall does not suddenly become entertaining just because you're doing it with more people.

how much PVP did you play

A fair amount, if I saw someone worth fighting I fought them.

how many 10,20,40 man raids did you go on

A few 10 and 20, only a couple of 40.

were you a member of a good guild that had regular events and a good social scene, did you play with friends???

I played with friends, but most of the "good" guilds that people told me about were full of tits, tbh.


The game did not interest me in any way, the only factor of it which I never got to fully experience was the "end game" PVP and stuff, but I consider the argument that "the game doesn't start till 60" (which I've heard from a few people before now) to be utter shite, if the game doesn't start until I've poured a year or so into it (yes, I leveled slowly, I didn't have the same fanatical devotion that many people display and would generally get bored after a few hours of play) then that's a major problem, imho.

[GingerPrinz]

I agree that the game starts long before level 60. Doesn't sound like you've ever played in the battlegrounds tho, which are tremendous fun and a gerat test of skill. Instancing is absolutely nothing like hunting, if you played it thus then you were doing it wrong I am sorry to say. A good guild is not necesarily a successful guild, but one which operates well (uses a bank, has regular raids and events, top support for starting players). The lore and storyline of the game is incredibly rich and detailed, that is what keeps so many people coming back for more with multiple characters to experience all facets of the game. I guess from what you're saying that you started playing it in an early stage of it's release. As I'm sure you are aware there are regular patches and content updates to make the game constantly more compelling and entertaining, so if you don't like the style of the game, then fair enough, but if content was an issue for you then you should play it again before badmouthing it further. Besides, why badmouth it at all? Enjoy the games you enjoy, let that be the end of it.

[YcMing]

I don't think fyndir was bad mouthing the game all, all he stated was he doesn'e enjoy the game.

and if is that great of a game it does not need convincing at all :).

"which are tremendous fun and a gerat test of skill"

What type of skills do you mean or need:P? I mean surely if you play the game long enough you will level up.

got to agree tho, if u love the game you will get addicted :) after seeing my cousin playing it.

[Fyndir]

Besides, why badmouth it at all?

I think you guys *need* to play some WoW....

That's why.

[Sideshow]

I think Dave's point (and he'll correct me if I'm wrong (probably before this post is posted)) was that if your idea of roleplaying is minmaxing characters, killing monsters and stealing loot, then WoW is the game for you (as that is what it *is*), and you should check it out. If you've already tried it and don't like it, then you can ignore the suggestion.

[GingerPrinz]

/applause

Oh and Ming, you don't actually level in battlegrounds, their like little side games that are (pretty much) PvP only and are themed, like Capture the Flag, Take and Hold, kille the enemy general etc.

[Phizz]

If you don't like the idea of level grinding EVE is based on time leveling. This is not even in game time this is real time skill learning. Sure it may take approximately 10years to get every available skill to lvl 5 but that is what makes it so rewarding. You have to know your strengths and weaknesses and you now start with approximately 900,000 skill points so there is less chance to whine about being killed off the bat.

It does take time to get into some of the more expensive ships but tbh. The skill comes in fitting and using what you've got and there is always something to strive for.

[Sid]

"This message has been deleted by Fyndir (http://www.pausegaming.com/forum/member.php?u=39). Reason: Say whaat?"

- just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't valid.

[gor]

Most thugs front when they get the chance (Fyndir: "say whaat?")

Some thugs hit the blunt when they get the chance (Fyndir: "say whaat?")

Live thugs stack chedder, then they make plans (Fyndir: "say whaat?")

by Fyndir Cool J - "Say Whaat?

[DAve]

I think Dave's point
Dave = GingerPrinz?

in any case, Dave != DAve

[Sid]

Dave = GingerPrinz?

Indeed.

[Asrylia]

Yeah, I have to agree about Warcraft. I played it to about level 43 with a Gnomish Fighter. At first I thought it was great, exploring strange lands, buying new items, forming groups to complete quests!

However, the gameplay quickly becomes boring and repetitive and it is difficult to find sane people to quest with who have ever heard the word "tactics" before. Also, I didn't like the fact that when you die you have to find your body.... argh!!

[Sideshow]

Yeah, this is like the fifth time DAve has thought I was referring to him. DAve! You're DAve! Every other Dave is Dave.

[Fyndir]

"This message has been deleted by Fyndir (http://www.pausegaming.com/forum/member.php?u=39). Reason: Say whaat?"

- just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't valid.

Just because it adds nothing to the conversation or discussion means it isn't valid.

If it's intentionally cryptic and meaningless then it's not adding anything to the thread, thus it can fuck off.

[YcMing]

Gor, what was that about :P ?

[--Mogwai--]

Just because it adds nothing to the conversation or discussion means it isn't valid.



that is basically every post you, phizz and ches make... why arent they all deleted?

[Ru]

+1

[gor]

then it's not adding anything to the thread

and how is a pointless WoW rant from fyndir adding anything to the "Chat about GUGS and girls and guns" thread?

that is basically every post you, phizz and ches make... why arent they all deleted?

+1

[Fyndir]

and how is a pointless WoW rant from fyndir adding anything to the "Chat about GUGS and girls and guns" thread?

Because he brought up WoW?

Oh shit!

Would that be relevant to the discussion and therefore the thread?

Fuck me, so it would. What a shocking revelation.

that is basically every post you, phizz and ches make... why arent they all deleted?

I'm hardly going to delete my own posts, since I clearly felt they were worth posting. If one of the other moderators or administrators feels that they need deleted then that's within their power to do. 0_o

Feel free to use the "Report Post" button if you feel a post needs deleted, that's what it's there for.

Just to make it clear, his post was "Us kids know, No cars go.", which is a line (or possibly two lines) from a song, I fail to see how random song lyrics added anything to the conversation. =/

[Muppet]

Following on to 'pointless posts', this thread is making me L o L.

[Bluepixie]

I was having a nice relaxing evening at home, then I get 3 e-mails about reported posts. Quickly check the forum, to find this.
I really can't be bothered with such ridiculous antics at this moment in time. I can assure you that there will be repercussions in relation to this at the meeting tomorrow.

[Phizz]

Thanks for the vote of confidence in the relevance of my posts. Besides. It's time for another split title: Whinging. Right to go back to topic.

Saw you playing in James' game Asrylia. Did you have a good time?

[Uuurrahh]

Thanks for the vote of confidence in the relevance of my posts. Besides. It's time for another split title: Whinging. Right to go back to topic.

Saw you playing in James' game Asrylia. Did you have a good time?

<insert's comment about James' monopoly>

[Phizz]

huh? I didn't hear about this. What's that?

[Chesire Cat]

wait what?

meh..need to show up on tuesday. MUST PLAY

[Asrylia]

I very much enjoyed the DnDing. Yes, I must agree that this is getting rather off topic.. but then again such things are hard to enforce. Anyhoo, back on topic.

GUGS is super fun! I am looking forward to next weeks installment

[Strings]

Asrylia, hoping to see you at the LAN tomorrow :D

[Ru]

oooooooh!

[GingerPrinz]

lolz

[Sid]

!!!?!?!?!?!?!

[Chesire Cat]

HAHAHA SMALL PEOPLE FTW. yo...wanna help me enfuriate james by getting me a portable hole? :P or a wand of cancellation...either works.... >_> <_< don't tell him tho. The plan is to create a space/time portal in my Bag of holding. :D

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