Fil2efly's car chat - Page 2

Greasel_burger · 25th March 2007, 22:03

what the hell is the guy on the left doing? dancing?

**Hex** · 25th March 2007, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Greasel_burger

what the hell is the guy on the left doing? dancing?

I hadn't noticed that before, how the fuck did that guy manage to be there at that exact moment? I mean he's almost directly behind the car, and he's in the middle of the road - how is he not flattened and bleeding?

YcMing · 26th March 2007, 09:55

pretty hardcore for road use for the weight reduction ~~ and as in the picture Ford don't have Vtec ( they wish they had :P), and isn't Ztec just uses more valves once hit certain revs, my friend had a 1.8 focus with zetec and all that, a nd there are no kick to it at all ~~ un like vtec :P

You car will be light tho ... but yet how does the car handle ? How balance is the weight front and back and did u go all out and move the battery , to the middle of the car , keeping the car weight raio as close to 50/50 as possible?

did you buy the like that, or you done the work yourself

?

Honda engines has tho

As for this lan, i shall decide later, as is getting closer to exam time..

Fil2eFly · 26th March 2007, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by YcMing

pretty hardcore for road use for the weight reduction
You car will be light tho ... but yet how does the car handle ? How balance is the weight front and back and did u go all out and move the battery , to the middle of the car , keeping the car weight raio as close to 50/50 as possible?

did you buy the like that, or you done the work yourself ?

its built to be a rally car, but im useing it on the road atm as it needs some road testing + i need to get used to driveing it

yea i recon its prity light gona use my uni's corner scales to see the weight and distrabution etc. it handles realy well but it dose over steer a bit witch can catch you out , problem is that its on fiesta RS turbo skocks/springs so there is no adjustment so i cant stiffen the back up a little, hopefully get some motorsport skocks some time

lol no i dident buy it ,, started life as a 1.1 standard fiesta that i got for nothing from a garage as it was a mot failure (needed welding,,, lots!) and the engine was in a smashed mk5b escort

YegaDoyai · 26th March 2007, 18:09

If the back is getting away from you in that car I'd think you'd need to get some weight over the rear wheels, not stiffen the suspension.

YcMing · 26th March 2007, 20:39

IF its for a rally car, over steer might not be a bad thing and do start moving weights towards to the middle of the car and not the rear (i.e the closer you get to 50/50 ratio the better). i take you don't distribute your braking like a road car? I would think you can adjust that manually so it helps drift when it needs be, which could be done such a way to avoid over steer.

Wheel spacers will also help turn in.

Also for motorsport shocks? So are u just changing the shock and keeping the same spring ? WHy not go for coil overs, where u can adjust the damping and height easily

.

And rally car running some standard shock + spring out another car is rather funny ...... or dangerous in this case :P

May i ask where do you rally ? also , what have u or planning to do to your engine ?? I mean u'll need vast amount of money to support this ~~ you'll go through gearbox pure rapid. And what group are you going to race in ?

But a simple 1.6 zetec simply just don't cut it, i mean is a ford at the end of the day:P

I would love to see what is under that bonnet ...

or is it still standard at the moment ?

Fil2eFly · 26th March 2007, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by YcMing

IF its for a rally car, over steer might not be a bad thing
i take you don't distribute your braking like a road car? I would think you can adjust that manually so it helps drift when it needs be, which could be done such a way to avoid over steer.

Wheel spacers will also help turn in.

Also for motorsport shocks? So are u just changing the shock and keeping the same spring ? WHy not go for coil overs, where u can adjust the damping and height easily

.

And rally car running some standard shock + spring out another car is rather funny ...... or dangerous in this case :P

May i ask where do you rally ? also , what have u or planning to do to your engine ?? I mean u'll need vast amount of money to support this ~~ you'll go through gearbox pure rapid. And what group are you going to race in ?

I would love to see what is under that bonnet ...

or is it still standard at the moment ?

wwaaayyy off topic
oh hear we go

no over steer is not a bad thing in rallying,, but its going to be a tramac car also oversteer in a FWD car is scary :P

as for the brake bias atm its at 60/40 i belive what is ok tbh, when i have the cash il probbaly go over to a set of twin cylinders to make adjusting easier

cant rly fit wheel spaces atm ac the wheels are right on the edges of the arches and further and it would be ilegal + the wheels would grind

the standard shocks/springs are there for a reason ,,, ££££££,,, or lack of it, there RS turbo shocks with stiff springs . i will go over to coil overs when i get the cash and when i need them, and atm its not to bad tbh,not like driveing a boat like most road cars

as for the engine, atm its mostly standard, apart from iv taken off all the gas recirculation shit and its got a big exaust n air filter on it. im planning on going for a mapable ECU first (megasquirt V3) then cams but all depends on cash

as for going through boxes, i rly dont see where your coming from on this one, as long as your a good driver your not gona fuck them up + its not made of chocolate like rover ones

cash well, so far its been £2k ish, give or take, its rly not that expencive as long as you mind where monney is being spent

Quote:

Originally Posted by YcMing

But a simple 1.6 zetec simply just don't cut it, i mean is a ford at the end of the day:P

im sry. but you have actualy offended me. (im not joking)
...
:O i have some vids of it lolol my m8 took

http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n...Video-0049.flv
http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n...Video-0045.flv

Quote:

Originally Posted by YegaDoyai

If the back is getting away from you in that car I'd think you'd need to get some weight over the rear wheels, not stiffen the suspension.

or is it soften :P lol i should know this studied it befor xmas lol

YcMing · 26th March 2007, 21:32

Well i am aiming at Rally rather than Road use .. yes gear box do last forever, as long as u get your clutch control right .. as for rally, under those conditions, using every gear to the max, just doesn't cut with a standard box

Not trying to offend you in anyway, may be you can enlighten me, what is the pros to do those engine .. i mean for a honda B16 engine, kicks out 160 hb easy ( JDM 168 BHP), as you know Vtec itself is just an engineering art. (sorry again if this offended you ), what am i suppose to get out of the video ? The car looks like is in very good conditions and you have alot of time on it, do you do the work yourself ?

I did ask what is Zetec actually :P, i just have never been a fan to them

, after my bro killed a 1.8 ZETEC focus in a 1.6 VTI

.

Are you rallying with the uni ?

Fil2eFly · 26th March 2007, 22:20

well im my experince standard boxes are widely used even up to group n, no there not going to last for ever, but i could go through a good 10 boxes 4 the same price as a custom build

as for the engine im sure if u wish to know all you can google will tell you, but my reasons are, i wanted a engine for the car that would be easyish to fit to the car (no haveing to totaly fuk about the suspention etc), not to expencive, plenty of room for upgrade and wouldent fuk me over for insurance to much and have a bit of pike of cource

the vid was a bit of fun ,or those who wanted to look tbh...?

not rallying at all atm, jst finished building the car, n jst driveing it about to test ect. + not with uni, my uni only dose formula ford

gota remeber foucses are big heavy things

YcMing · 26th March 2007, 22:41

Yup knew you would of said that

, but i was more concentraing power to weight ratio

1.8 and 1.6, yes your car is lighter, but 1.8 will have more torque ^^, so i would say it balances things out, also they have a wider track (as is a bigger car ), their handling is slightly better ( considering 2 standard car)

I mean as an alternative, a EG civic (any e.g lsi, dx), bolt to bolt swap with a B16 DOHC engine, and remeber the advantage is you will get double wishbone , which is what F1 is using

, the handling is fantasic !!!!

As for mapping, if all you done is exchaust and filter, then is overkill ( or useless to use a self-mappable system), i mean only really worth while if you are to do some heavy cam upgrade, lighten and balance fly wheel for NA turningor TURBO!!!!! ( is that something you will plan ? from what u said "plenty of room for upgrade", that only implies a turbo, else u wouldn't need more room in the engine bay :P.

I think my last couple of post i have mistaken you car to be trackday only.. well then my fault, do have fun on the raod with your ford

, and yes i could of google about the engine, but i like to hear, why people pick their car, i just finds it interesting regardless of what car u pick, and i do respect it.

anyway, i ain't driving nothing fancy at all at the moment

, a little fiat cinquecento with top struct-brace , induction, and a larger TB from a punto. as u know speed is and looks not my main concern (not that i have either of themn lol :P), handling is my main aim, as goung through mountain and country road is just so fun!!!! and i have a honda CRx sitting here, ( can;t afford insurance, since is an import >.<, silly silly)

and do you do the work yourself

???

Sorry mods to be off topic !! i'll be good now

26th March 2007, 21:32	#18
YcMing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 471	Well i am aiming at Rally rather than Road use .. yes gear box do last forever, as long as u get your clutch control right .. as for rally, under those conditions, using every gear to the max, just doesn't cut with a standard box Not trying to offend you in anyway, may be you can enlighten me, what is the pros to do those engine .. i mean for a honda B16 engine, kicks out 160 hb easy ( JDM 168 BHP), as you know Vtec itself is just an engineering art. (sorry again if this offended you ), what am i suppose to get out of the video ? The car looks like is in very good conditions and you have alot of time on it, do you do the work yourself ? I did ask what is Zetec actually :P, i just have never been a fan to them , after my bro killed a 1.8 ZETEC focus in a 1.6 VTI . Are you rallying with the uni ? Last edited by YcMing; 26th March 2007 at 21:40.

26th March 2007, 22:20	#19
Fil2eFly I'm a monstrous penis Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,057	well im my experince standard boxes are widely used even up to group n, no there not going to last for ever, but i could go through a good 10 boxes 4 the same price as a custom build as for the engine im sure if u wish to know all you can google will tell you, but my reasons are, i wanted a engine for the car that would be easyish to fit to the car (no haveing to totaly fuk about the suspention etc), not to expencive, plenty of room for upgrade and wouldent fuk me over for insurance to much and have a bit of pike of cource the vid was a bit of fun ,or those who wanted to look tbh...? not rallying at all atm, jst finished building the car, n jst driveing it about to test ect. + not with uni, my uni only dose formula ford gota remeber foucses are big heavy things __________________ Flying majestically over the digital wasteland, blades chopping at the air at 3.4GHz, the mighty ROFLCOPTER soars.

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25th March 2007, 22:03	#11
Greasel_burger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 222	what the hell is the guy on the left doing? dancing?

26th March 2007, 09:55	#13
YcMing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 471	pretty hardcore for road use for the weight reduction ~~ and as in the picture Ford don't have Vtec ( they wish they had :P), and isn't Ztec just uses more valves once hit certain revs, my friend had a 1.8 focus with zetec and all that, a nd there are no kick to it at all ~~ un like vtec :P You car will be light tho ... but yet how does the car handle ? How balance is the weight front and back and did u go all out and move the battery , to the middle of the car , keeping the car weight raio as close to 50/50 as possible? did you buy the like that, or you done the work yourself ? Honda engines has tho As for this lan, i shall decide later, as is getting closer to exam time..

26th March 2007, 18:09	#15
YegaDoyai Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,310	If the back is getting away from you in that car I'd think you'd need to get some weight over the rear wheels, not stiffen the suspension.

26th March 2007, 20:39	#16
YcMing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 471	IF its for a rally car, over steer might not be a bad thing and do start moving weights towards to the middle of the car and not the rear (i.e the closer you get to 50/50 ratio the better). i take you don't distribute your braking like a road car? I would think you can adjust that manually so it helps drift when it needs be, which could be done such a way to avoid over steer. Wheel spacers will also help turn in. Also for motorsport shocks? So are u just changing the shock and keeping the same spring ? WHy not go for coil overs, where u can adjust the damping and height easily . And rally car running some standard shock + spring out another car is rather funny ...... or dangerous in this case :P May i ask where do you rally ? also , what have u or planning to do to your engine ?? I mean u'll need vast amount of money to support this ~~ you'll go through gearbox pure rapid. And what group are you going to race in ? But a simple 1.6 zetec simply just don't cut it, i mean is a ford at the end of the day:P I would love to see what is under that bonnet ... or is it still standard at the moment ?

26th March 2007, 22:41	#20
YcMing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 471	Yup knew you would of said that , but i was more concentraing power to weight ratio 1.8 and 1.6, yes your car is lighter, but 1.8 will have more torque ^^, so i would say it balances things out, also they have a wider track (as is a bigger car ), their handling is slightly better ( considering 2 standard car) I mean as an alternative, a EG civic (any e.g lsi, dx), bolt to bolt swap with a B16 DOHC engine, and remeber the advantage is you will get double wishbone , which is what F1 is using , the handling is fantasic !!!! As for mapping, if all you done is exchaust and filter, then is overkill ( or useless to use a self-mappable system), i mean only really worth while if you are to do some heavy cam upgrade, lighten and balance fly wheel for NA turningor TURBO!!!!! ( is that something you will plan ? from what u said "plenty of room for upgrade", that only implies a turbo, else u wouldn't need more room in the engine bay :P. I think my last couple of post i have mistaken you car to be trackday only.. well then my fault, do have fun on the raod with your ford , and yes i could of google about the engine, but i like to hear, why people pick their car, i just finds it interesting regardless of what car u pick, and i do respect it. anyway, i ain't driving nothing fancy at all at the moment , a little fiat cinquecento with top struct-brace , induction, and a larger TB from a punto. as u know speed is and looks not my main concern (not that i have either of themn lol :P), handling is my main aim, as goung through mountain and country road is just so fun!!!! and i have a honda CRx sitting here, ( can;t afford insurance, since is an import >.<, silly silly) and do you do the work yourself ??? Sorry mods to be off topic !! i'll be good now